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Post by backshophoss on Jan 6, 2016 19:47:35 GMT -5
Good luck building the frames for those P-32's,take the time to clean up the drive parts and
get rid of the "factory lube" on them.
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Post by acelaphillies on Jan 6, 2016 22:26:52 GMT -5
Sounds like a fun build! I will enjoy following along if you keep us updated. The frame build especially is something that you do not hear about too often.
On a side note, is there a reason that you decided to go with the Walthers model over the Atlas one?
I have taken a liking to these diesels over the years too. Unfortunately, in order to stay on budget, I don't really buy diesels. I'm trying to stick to my NEC locale. The only running under wires that the P32-BWH does is on the Keystone Corridor or below Philly. :/
Maybe someday I will build a little Keystone Corridor diorama. That way I would be able to model a grade crossing and diesels!! Haha
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Post by backshophoss on Jan 6, 2016 22:38:42 GMT -5
Having a P-32 pulling a work train on the NEC would not be out of line,or towing a dead set of Arrow III's  |
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Post by sd80mac on Jan 7, 2016 3:58:32 GMT -5
Sounds like a fun build! I will enjoy following along if you keep us updated. The frame build especially is something that you do not hear about too often. On a side note, is there a reason that you decided to go with the Walthers model over the Atlas one? I have taken a liking to these diesels over the years too. Unfortunately, in order to stay on budget, I don't really buy diesels. I'm trying to stick to my NEC locale. The only running under wires that the P32-BWH does is on the Keystone Corridor or below Philly. :/ Maybe someday I will build a little Keystone Corridor diorama. That way I would be able to model a grade crossing and diesels!! Haha
The main contributor was price. Atlas' tooling is nicer/finer, but I bought three Walthers units for the price of one Atlas, plus a have a lead on two more (one of which is a duplicate number, and may be used as a donor). Aside from changes to the body/shell, I would like to focus on the under frame and pilot detail, especially around the fuel tank and battery box. I'll likely keep the stanchions, but drill out the heads for .010" or .0125" wire. I'd like to see if there is any way to include etchings into these models, but then again, that may be a stretch.
These Dash 8 locomotives will make great compliments to my Fleet of Kato and Walthers F40PHs, and will be used to pull my 90s Southwest Chief, Desert Wind, and San Diegans (with upgraded 1970s Bachmann Amfleets and converted Metroliner cab car!)
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Post by sd80mac on Jun 6, 2016 9:04:44 GMT -5
UPDATE:
I spent a lot of time (probably too much time!) trying to figure out how I was going to make all of the changes that I wanted to make to the long hood. I finally just decided to remove most of the long hood, and rearrange the details to more accurately represent the prototype.
Last night, I made the first cuts on one of the Walthers P32-8BWH shells. I removed the hood sections by scribing along various panel lines molded into the body. Now that this is done, I will cut the engine compartment in half, remove the two hood doors (one on each half to retain the correct door configuration), square up the ends on my mill, and then carefully splice the two shortened halves back together.
Lastly, the area between the dynamic brake section and the engine compartment will be rebuilt using sheet styrene and possibly doors and grilles from the original shell. All holes and voids will be filled with styrene and sanded to blend with the original shell detail.
I had considered trying to retain as much of the original paint as possible, but with all of the work and rework being done to the shell, I will dunk the shell in an alcohol bath and start the rebuild with bare plastic.
Donnell
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Post by backshophoss on Jun 6, 2016 18:37:32 GMT -5
How the "scratch built" frame project progressing?
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Post by sd80mac on Jun 7, 2016 22:22:02 GMT -5
How is the "scratch built" frame project progressing?
I haven't started on the frame yet. But when I do start, it will be built from brass stock. Now you got me "itching" to start, but I will restrain myself until the shell is done.
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Post by backshophoss on Jun 7, 2016 22:59:44 GMT -5
I take the feeling none of the underframes are salvageable?
Didn't mean to create that "itch"
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Post by sd80mac on Jun 7, 2016 23:30:36 GMT -5
Well, only one of the frames disintegrated, but the others that are intact will be modified and detailed accordingly.
Here are few photos of the shell with the long hood removed:
 
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Post by backshophoss on Jun 7, 2016 23:52:34 GMT -5
The "given" is Walters used a "Dash 8 40B shell",looks good so far.
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Post by backshophoss on Sept 2, 2016 22:59:42 GMT -5
You just might be doing a "public service" by building a new frame,there will be more of these early run "Trainline"
models that will deadlined when the frame "rots away" or breaks apart!
To ANYBODY that runs early Walter's "Trainline" models,Seems like the frame castings was not "QC"ed when they were poured
as a molten metal,meaning it was not a"pure" metal,they were contaminated at the factory level.
If you see any "casting rot" or cracks on the frame,or any bodyshell "warping" out of shape,the frame is most likely "Toast"
or very close to failing. Any "white powder" or poor running requiring a repair,it would be a good idea to inspect the frame ASAP!
The worst part is there's no replacement frame avaible,other than a "scratchbuild" replacement or making a mold of
a "GOOD" underframe to "cast" a replacement in metal at a local foundry.
AT best this was part of the "Learning curve" that all manufactures went thru when using the Chinese factories back then!
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Post by sd80mac on Jan 19, 2017 21:35:59 GMT -5
I finally began working on the replacement frame. I started with a 12" x 1" x .032" piece of flat brass stock and cut it to fit the Walthers shell. Here are a few shots:
More to come...
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Post by slowfreight on Jan 19, 2017 22:20:00 GMT -5
Groovy. You'll be able to get some awesome detailing done by building it up from scratch.
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Post by backshophoss on Jan 19, 2017 22:29:33 GMT -5
You seem to be off to a great start,that broken frame is a real mess.
Is that "intact" frame beginning to crack?
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Post by sd80mac on Jan 20, 2017 1:27:28 GMT -5
The intact frame is from a later run in which they (Walthers) "beefed up" the motor cradle and fuel tank mounting area.
This is the first time I've ever done anything like this, and I really like how it's turning out!
Donnell
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