Deandremouse
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Primary Railroads: Metro North, LIRR, Amtrak, ADIX
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Post by Deandremouse on Dec 5, 2015 2:48:24 GMT -5
Don't know if anyone has noticed, but Athearn plans on doing CDOT 834, 836 & 840. www.athearn.com/newsletter/112715/02_RTR_AMD103_112715.pdfWould be real nice, just don't have any Mafersa cars to run them with... DCC Ready ATH88839 HO RTR P40DC, Ex-Amtrak Phase V CDOT #834 ATH88840 HO RTR P40DC, Ex-Amtrak Phase V CDOT #836 ATH88841 HO RTR P40DC, Ex-Amtrak Phase V CDOT #840 CDOT FEATURES: • Former Amtrak Phase V • Standard Nose • Large Sinclair radio antenna $129.98 SRP |
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Post by backshophoss on Dec 5, 2015 21:39:51 GMT -5
These ConnDOT loco's are known as "Honorary Alcos",due to the amount of black exhaust they lay down from a station stop. Still no new run of Comet/Horizen Fleet cars from Walters yet.   |
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Post by rails4dmv on Dec 6, 2015 18:54:17 GMT -5
Looks like Athearn is trying to get as many locos out of this tooling as possible.
Could a P32ACDM be far behind? I would love to see the "McGinnis" Scheme Conn DOT/Metro North units done.
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timberley
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Primary Railroads: VIA Rail Canada, AMT (Montreal)
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Post by timberley on Dec 9, 2015 12:58:49 GMT -5
They're also doing undecorated units (both the original-nose version and the bolt-o-nose modified), which I believe is a first as well, except for maybe during the blue-box days. Certainly don't recall an RTR undec being done.
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Deandremouse
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Post by Deandremouse on Dec 9, 2015 16:05:26 GMT -5
They're also doing undecorated units (both the original-nose version and the bolt-o-nose modified), which I believe is a first as well, except for maybe during the blue-box days. Certainly don't recall an RTR undec being done. That's New I just noticed that. A P32 would require a new tool possibly due to the differences, but they might just do a stand in some day along the road. They have the MTA License so it is doable I don't expect to see a NJ Transit P40 due to the large licensing fee NJ Transit chagres, don't think Athearn will make much off it. |
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Post by backshophoss on Dec 9, 2015 17:47:33 GMT -5
Using the P40 bodyshell,Athearn did a "blue box "P32dm stand in",scheme was Factory Silver/blue stripe as delivered from GE Erie. Need to find my model,"buried" in the dead line. The 1st run done by Athearn has cast in underframe coupler pockets,use some insulating paint, so you can MU units.(needed for DCC conversions) RMC did an article about a "super detailed" P32dm in ConnDOT/NH "McGinnis" scheme ages ago, Not sure if White River has that in their Archives from Carstens sale. |
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Post by acelaphillies on Dec 10, 2015 0:13:23 GMT -5
Looks like Athearn is trying to get as many locos out of this tooling as possible. Could a P32ACDM be far behind? I would love to see the "McGinnis" Scheme Conn DOT/Metro North units done. You know, I few years ago I would have said no way. However, after they retooled for the bolted-on nose, I think it is definitely a possibility. It would open up the market to a lot of new models including: Amtrak Phase III, IV, and V. Metro-North Silver and Metro-North Blue, and, what would presumably be a big seller, the McGinnis ConnDOT scheme. Right now the only variation that they have not covered with their existing tooling is the NJ Transit model. Timberley, I think the VIA models have been covered, but correct me if I am wrong. I don't expect to see a NJ Transit P40 due to the large licensing fee NJ Transit chagres, don't think Athearn will make much off it. I have heard a few people mention these expensive NJT fees. Do you care to elaborate? How much more are they than average? I guess Atlas was willing to pay them for the ALP-44. |
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Post by rails4dmv on Dec 10, 2015 20:53:23 GMT -5
I'm also curious as to how much NJ Transit is charging for licenses. The last NJ Transit locomotive to grace the store shelves was Intermountain's F7A.
I think if anyone announces any prototypical RTR NJ Transit passenger cars or locomotives right now, they could make a small fortune.
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Post by acelaphillies on Dec 11, 2015 1:32:45 GMT -5
I'm also curious as to how much NJ Transit is charging for licenses. The last NJ Transit locomotive to grace the store shelves was Intermountain's F7A. I think if anyone announces any prototypical RTR NJ Transit passenger cars or locomotives right now, they could make a small fortune. I do remember a few years ago Island Modelworks pulled all of their NJT decals because of cost. Meanwhile, they are running a large line of SEPTA decals, signifying a cooperation on SEPTA's end. Manufacturers like Joe are probably the only one's that can shed light on this, but it may not be in their best interests to reveal this info. I know that NJT has larger priorities than model trains, but I must say I have enjoyed Amtrak's recent amicability towards hobbyists. I think this is largely a result of guys like AmtrakMatt. I would venture to say that Amtrak's memrobelia sales have gone way up in recent years as well. It would be neat to see the same for NJT. As far a commuter railroads, they probably have one of the largest fanbases in the nation. |
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Post by backshophoss on Dec 11, 2015 2:16:57 GMT -5
VIA was covered by the run done by "George's Trains" in Canada,with VIA's blessing,
believe the only "bolt nose" mod in Canada are Amtrak units.
It might be still be possible that there're some NJT decal sets still avaible at Microscale.
On a sad note:Model Traction Supply Company is inactive(belly up?) reportly KMD Enterprises
holds the parts patterns/remaining stock if any. Had a IRT style 3rd rail shoebeam that could be
used on a P32dm model,and various MU car models.
E(vil)-Bay may show some of MTS's parts,at a marked up price,due to rarity.
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Post by rails4dmv on Dec 11, 2015 10:36:53 GMT -5
The licensing fees for Metro North and Long Island RR must have come down considerably, considering the amount of product that has been released for those commuter roads within the last 3-4 years, mostly notably by Rapido.
On a side note, considering that Rapido is doing the Amtrak F40PH and the soon to be announced F40PH with ditch lights, which was mentioned in their last newsletter (hopefully commuter versions are in the mix), could a Rapido P42 be far off their radar? It could explain why Athearn is flooding the market with more P42 models.
A Rapido quality P42 in all variations and Amtrak Phases would stun the model world. What's funny, in Jason's newsletter, he mentioned most people didn't know the company nor did they know he was releasing a F40PH model. I'm sure as popular as the F40PH still is, a Rapido P42 would get them noticed and sell like wildfire.
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timberley
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Primary Railroads: VIA Rail Canada, AMT (Montreal)
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Post by timberley on Dec 11, 2015 11:44:20 GMT -5
The VIA units have been done in a few custom runs - first by Hobbycraft Canada back ~2003 I believe, and then subsequently multiple runs split between George's Trains and other distributors (basically George's initiated, got one "exclusive" road number, and different distributors got another road number). Each run has been quite different, as the first ones used a darker blue/green colour and were either on the original or slightly-modified RTR chassis, the second run had the DCC-ready but still-no-ditchlights chassis and was a darker metallic green, and the most recent one has all the new Athearn improvements and was done in the proper blue that most units now wear.
The VIA units were almost entirely stock Amtrak units, but they do have a few small differences - different air filter dryers for example. Most of the differences have happened as VIA modified them in more recent years. No bolted noses, but VIA has added an extra high-intensity headlight, added extra "emergency" horns that Transport Canada now requires, removed sandfiller hatches, and modified the front HEP plugs - possibly some other little things too. But basically the Athearn model is close enough that it doesn't take a lot of work to do the VIA details. The undecorated units would make this quite easy to do, then using Microscale decals to complete (which are pretty good, but are missing the various roof safety markings).
I'd definitely be in for a Rapido P42! I don't know if it's likely, but I'd sure be happy to have one. In addition to the superior details, you know those would also have full-featured sound and lots of lighting functions (including marker lights, flashing ditch lights as appropriate, lit numberboards, and step lights).
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Post by backshophoss on Dec 11, 2015 17:30:58 GMT -5
Considering that Rapido's 1st run of the FL-9's was a sell out in HO,
Jason just might try to do a proper P32dm model before the P40/42 model,
with Amtrak ph III,ph IV,ph V,2 MN schemes,Silver/Blue stripe,and Silver/Blue/Red stripe,
and ConnDOT/"McGinnis".
Only time will tell......
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timberley
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Post by timberley on Dec 14, 2015 9:30:50 GMT -5
Funnily enough, someone just asked Jason about this on the CanModelTrains Yahoo group. His response does not lend much promise to Rapido doing a P42:
"Seeing as there are already two competingf P42 models in the market right now, I'm not keen on doing a P42. But I'll tell you what.
You can have the first accurate VIA P42DC for $97,000 ($97,100 with sound), and they are $225/$325 each after that."
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Deandremouse
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Post by Deandremouse on Dec 14, 2015 15:45:59 GMT -5
Funnily enough, someone just asked Jason about this on the CanModelTrains Yahoo group. His response does not lend much promise to Rapido doing a P42: "Seeing as there are already two competingf P42 models in the market right now, I'm not keen on doing a P42. But I'll tell you what. You can have the first accurate VIA P42DC for $97,000 ($97,100 with sound), and they are $225/$325 each after that." lol gotta love Jason. I don't remember the number for the NJT Licensing fee but its more than the other commuter lines, has been discussed before and I believe that was one of Athearns responses to an inquiry a while back. Would a RTR NJT P40 be nice? Yes. Would I buy one? Only if cars become available in the near future but probably. Theyre running out of road #s for AMTK |
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