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Post by mgwsy on Jul 20, 2013 9:42:18 GMT -5
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Post by antoniofp45 on Sept 17, 2013 18:41:21 GMT -5
Neat seeing Bachmann stepping up their game. I'm surprised that they're producing a GG1 since there have been so many produced over the years in plastic and brass. The Broadway Limited unit is, imho, is the unit to beat so hopefully Bachmann's tool and die making is up to par as well as the sound scheme.
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Post by mgwsy on Sept 17, 2013 18:56:53 GMT -5
I ordered a couple of the GG1's the BLI units are impossible to find and they will never be made again thanks to MTH, I am not to keen on AHM version, and MTH can shove their gg1's right up mikes...............
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Post by backshophoss on Sept 17, 2013 23:49:25 GMT -5
MTH made more ermines than Friends after taking on the NMRA over DCC,in the process,making most hobby shop owners think twice about dealing with MTH. Sader-Kan,Bachmann's "in house" Factory makes great looking/ great running models that can run "right out of the box" without "tweaking"  |
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Post by gmpullman on Apr 2, 2014 0:09:29 GMT -5
I ordered a couple of the GG1's the BLI units are impossible to find and they will never be made again thanks to MTH, I am not to keen on AHM version, and MTH can shove their gg1's right up mikes............... Don't give up on ebay. I just picked up a BLI 4844 with a single buff stripe and a CR paint-over for $160 and while I was watching that one a Tuscan 5 stripe came up NEW in BOX with a buy it now at $155! It was gone in a flash! (this was only last week) You just have to keep watching. Ebay GG1No, I will not have an MTH either. I am hearing good things about the Bachmann GG1s and for the price they sound like a good value... Good Luck, Ed |
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Post by backshophoss on Apr 2, 2014 1:59:02 GMT -5
The AHM model was a decent runner and fair puller,but not DCC convertable,unless repowered
with a can motor. The body shell had good detail for the time it was made.
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Post by mgwsy on Apr 2, 2014 15:06:39 GMT -5
I picked up my 2 PC units and they look pretty decent for the price. I have yet to run them but from other reviews I have read they seem to track better then the BLI and MTH versions.
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cab4
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Post by cab4 on Apr 8, 2014 21:10:30 GMT -5
I might snatch a PC one as well, but I'm going to try and kitbash it into a one of the modified variants of the GG1.
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Post by antoniofp45 on Apr 13, 2014 20:38:08 GMT -5
Hi guys, I got one recently from MB Klein for $159.99, plus shipping. Being that it's from Bachmann, I hesitated about buying one at first. But then I realized that the liklihood of finding a BLI GG1 on Ebay for a decent price is not great, so I went for it. I must say that it's a beauty! This is the "sound value" version. The sounds don't run continuously and have to be manually actuated on your DCC controller. However, considering that the prototypes were generally quiet runners, that shouldn't be a deal breaker. I'm glad that it has a decent sounding Leslie A-200 "Honker" horn with a slight reverb. Since my modeling era is from the mid-60s onward, I have the Brunswick Green with the single stripe version since that was the scheme that most of the GG1s were in during that time period. The paint job is nice and crisp. As pointed out on another forum, the primary mistake on it is that the large Pennsy Keystone herald has yellow letters instead of white, as on the prototype. But I can live with it. I'm impressed with its weight. Unlike the "improved" Bachmann DCC equipped E60CP, the new GG1 is about as heavy as the old Life Like P2K E-units.....basically a brick! Helpful for hauling those long, rolling-resistant Walthers passenger cars. At this time I haven't tested it on the track yet but I'm looking forward to seeing it pull my 11 car version of SCL's Champion (once I finish metalizing, decaling and detailing those cars) Here's a link to a review from a modeler who is a member of one of our neighboring forums: www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6GfozphhEQ |
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Post by backshophoss on Apr 14, 2014 1:02:25 GMT -5
Antonio,Thanks for your review,and the linked video,it's good that Bachmann is "stepping up their game"
with the GG-1 model,the real GG-1 was quiet unless the fans were running in high mode after a fast run or on
a warm day in the summer.When running light after a power change at New Haven or South Amboy,they were
quiet except for brake noises or steam generator hissing,or bell ringing while moving to Motor storage
at NHV or to the engine house/yard at South Amboy on NY&LB(NJCL).
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Post by antoniofp45 on Apr 27, 2014 8:46:56 GMT -5
You're welcome Backshopboss. Your info on the prototype is helpful as initially I had considered changing out the decoder but you and others that have heard the prototype confirmed that these giants were generally quiet. I'm looking forward to running my unit. Currently my powerpack is "kaputzky" but I plan on purchasing an NCE system in the next few months (have to budget for it). High Greens  |
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Post by cab4 on Apr 28, 2014 0:35:09 GMT -5
You know, I suspected it might be a little more complicated in the sound department. I've actually heard it both ways. Some told me that they were loud (just not "conventionally" loud) with their blower fans, and others said they make little noise. Unfortunately, my time machine is broken so we'll never really know.
I wonder who makes the best GG1 sound?
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Post by backshophoss on Apr 28, 2014 2:07:37 GMT -5
While GG-1's were built to the same specs,all would handle differently,some would be smooth/quiet,
others could be cranky,loud pain in the butts.
In general terms electric engines and MU's are quiet,the M-7's have that motor whine that is a giveaway
unless you heard flange squeal,air brake hiss,or a quick horn blat,they crawl up silent.
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Post by antoniofp45 on May 4, 2014 12:41:08 GMT -5
Both of you guys are correct.
Compared to diesel locomotives the classic electrics generally ran more quietly with the "noise" mostly coming from blower fans, air compressors and horns. The New Haven EP5 "Jets", were famous (or infamous) for having very loud fan motors. Although these units ran across the street from my home when I was a kid, I can't recall hearing their sounds (bummer).
Re: The M7.
Backshop, are you referring to that annoying "violin" sound? I can't stand it as to me, it's creepy. I notice that all of the newer NYC subway cars and commuter rail cars make that sound.
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Post by backshophoss on May 4, 2014 17:07:05 GMT -5
I tend to refer to that as AC motor whine,yep that sound  The trend is to use AC traction motors, are less prone to burn up or short out,and no worries about "short time" ratings(how many miniutes at MAX load+max amps). |
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The trend is to use AC traction motors,