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Post by rails4dmv on Jun 20, 2016 15:10:41 GMT -5
Rapido just posted a very entertaining video of their next project on YouTube....HO scale GM Fishbowl Buses. www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxF91SJiz-c3D scanned from one of the last remaining TTC GM buses, the model will have lights & interior along with some other features not seen in a HO scale bus...I have to admit I didn't see this coming. I have a few of the HO scale Busch GM Fishbowl buses, as well as a few of the Corgi 1:50 scale buses, but they never quite looked right. Depending on which transit agencies he's going to do, I'll be all over these, especially if he does any NYCTA with the "batwing" advertisement side panels. But there was a name drop in the video that maybe a potential clue to a project they might be thinking about doing down the road. The Rohr Turboliner! |
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Post by backshophoss on Jun 20, 2016 16:02:17 GMT -5
The last newsletter did hint on "Something",but not a bus.
On a side note,the bus's diesel engine is a few generations newer version of the prime mover used on the RDC's
IF it is the Rohr Tubro,remember the design was based on the ANF tubro used by SCNF and Amtrak.
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Post by rails4dmv on Jun 20, 2016 16:53:12 GMT -5
The last newsletter did hint on "Something",but not a bus. On a side note,the bus's diesel engine is a few generations newer version of the prime mover used on the RDC's IF it is the Rohr Tubro,remember the design was based on the ANF tubro used by SCNF and Amtrak. What will be impressive if he releases a HO GM fishbowl bus with a sound file! I know it was just a name drop but I hope the Rohr Turbo is on the way. Within the last 5 years Rapido has taken so much of my hobby dollars, (F40PH, FL9, LRC, LIRR & PC Osgood Bradley Cars, Amtrak Turbo) I guess a few more payday loans won't matter...(NPCU, FA-2, RDC, 8600 Coaches, possible Rohr Turbo??) lol. A properly done Rohr Turbo would make the Jouef Amtrak model look like a toy. Since Rapido has successfully entered the British OO gauge market, it can't be that much of a stretch for them to break into the French hobby market and do a turbo model for the SNCF. |
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Post by ihphobbymike on Jun 21, 2016 12:56:13 GMT -5
The last newsletter did hint on "Something",but not a bus. On a side note,the bus's diesel engine is a few generations newer version of the prime mover used on the RDC's IF it is the Rohr Tubro,remember the design was based on the ANF tubro used by SCNF and Amtrak. What will be impressive if he releases a HO GM fishbowl bus with a sound file! I know it was just a name drop but I hope the Rohr Turbo is on the way. Within the last 5 years Rapido has taken so much of my hobby dollars, (F40PH, FL9, LRC, LIRR & PC Osgood Bradley Cars, Amtrak Turbo) I guess a few more payday loans won't matter...(NPCU, FA-2, RDC, 8600 Coaches, possible Rohr Turbo??) lol. A properly done Rohr Turbo would make the Jouef Amtrak model look like a toy. Since Rapido has successfully entered the British OO gauge market, it can't be that much of a stretch for them to break into the French hobby market and do a turbo model for the SNCF. What makes you think it's a Rohr Turboliner? Rapido is doing a lot of great stuff but I also see a lot of announced stuff that isn't available yet. I hope they're not overextending themselves. Mike Bartel |
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Post by backshophoss on Jun 21, 2016 15:36:47 GMT -5
The only Rohr product that's well known is the DC Metro's 1K subway cars,that was run by Walters already years ago. Unless there's a Rohr product running in TTC's Subways?  |
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Post by ihphobbymike on Jun 21, 2016 21:36:26 GMT -5
The only Rohr product that's well known is the DC Metro's 1K subway cars,that was run by Walters already years ago. Unless there's a Rohr product running in TTC's Subways? Not sure I'd get my hopes up. For one, finding drawings or blueprints of the Rohr trainsets is impossible. I know, I tried. Amtrak didn't even have them available. I finally got some from a fellow who worked at Rohr and worked on the project back in the 1970s, but they're not that complete. And unless Rapido got to scan one of the trainsets before they were torn apart a year or two ago, there's not much else out there in terms of usable reference information to build a model of Rapido quality. Plus, it's not Canadian, and Jason tends to think of Canadian stuff first. He'll only do US stuff if there's a Canadian connection, i.e. a way to amortise the Canadian-prototype tooling. |
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Post by backshophoss on Jun 21, 2016 22:39:29 GMT -5
There are 2 rebuilt sets stored at Wilmington or Bear shop,for legal reasons(lawsuit,NYS vs Amtrak reportly) They are well buried there and would need Amtrak's help to scan them. All of the untouched sets were scrapped a few years back near the Hornell shop complex,including any useable spare parts after NY state declared them surplus.   |
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Post by slowfreight on Jun 21, 2016 23:21:56 GMT -5
There are 2 rebuilt sets stored at Wilmington or Bear shop,for legal reasons(lawsuit,NYS vs Amtrak reportly) They are well buried there and would need Amtrak's help to scan them. All of the untouched sets were scrapped a few years back near the Hornell shop complex,including any useable spare parts after NY state declared them surplus. I remember seeing the auction announcement for those. Sadly, the high bidders were scrap dealers. But the turbines were expensive to operate, oddball, and had been stored for a long time...so I guess we shouldn't be surprised. But this is where rail preservation is entering a new dark age, methinks, where 70s/80s era stuff is being rejected for historic preservation. If somebody wanted, they could have preserved those, but I don't see much effort to save any modern passenger equipment that's being retired. Only 2 CTA 2000s will survive. Only 2 2200s. Only 2 Highliners. Only 1 AEM7. No P30CH. It was easy to find buyers for CTA 1-50, and EL MU cars...probably because they seemed "railroady" to some old guys. But this is the same reason we have only 1 E7 left, stuffed and mounted--it wasn't "old" at the time. |
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Post by rails4dmv on Jun 22, 2016 11:40:49 GMT -5
The only Rohr product that's well known is the DC Metro's 1K subway cars,that was run by Walters already years ago. Unless there's a Rohr product running in TTC's Subways? Not sure I'd get my hopes up. For one, finding drawings or blueprints of the Rohr trainsets is impossible. I know, I tried. Amtrak didn't even have them available. I finally got some from a fellow who worked at Rohr and worked on the project back in the 1970s, but they're not that complete. And unless Rapido got to scan one of the trainsets before they were torn apart a year or two ago, there's not much else out there in terms of usable reference information to build a model of Rapido quality. Plus, it's not Canadian, and Jason tends to think of Canadian stuff first. He'll only do US stuff if there's a Canadian connection, i.e. a way to amortise the Canadian-prototype tooling. There is a Canadian connection, albeit small. www.railpictures.ca/upload/amtrak-157-leads-the-rohr-turboliner-with-detroit-to-new-york-city-train-64-the-niagara-rainbow-via-the-caso-sub-through-ontario-first-stop-out-of-detroit-was-windsor-at-0810-on-this-rather-ble I have to see if I can find some other pictures, but I remember Amtrak also used the Rohr Turbo trainsets on the Maple Leaf out of NY Penn Station via Albany in the 80's when Amtrak had equipment shortages. I did a Google search and I found pictures that showed the RTL III trainsets are still being stored in Bear, Delaware as of 8/2014. Now as to what condition they are in almost 2 years later, God only knows. You never know what's up Jason's sleeve. Everybody be warned. If these trainsets have not been scrapped yet, don't be surprised if we hear news of a small Canadian hobby manufacturer purchasing a Rohr Turbo Set.  |
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Post by backshophoss on Jun 22, 2016 16:07:34 GMT -5
They did turns on 68/69 to Montreal.as well as 63/64 to Toronto,
the Rohrs did replace the D&H equipment on 68/69,when they went online for the first time around.
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