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Post by loekie04 on Feb 20, 2013 18:54:59 GMT -5
It looks like the Rapido LIRR Osgood Bradley Coaches are slowly making their way to hobby shops. As soon as mine arrives I post some reviews.
What was the time frame these were in service on the LIRR?
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Post by liengineerbob on Feb 20, 2013 19:19:35 GMT -5
The Osgood Bradley coaches came from the Bangor and Aroostok and the Boston and Maine. I am not sure when exactly they arrived....but they did wear five and a half different paint schemes. The cars differed in details, being they were from tow different railroads. I have no idea, until I see mine, what cars (if any) they represent, the BAR or B&M.
Most ran in their previous owners colors while they were waiting their turn in the paint shop. Once painted, they got a dark grey body with a black roof with white lettering, later on they got Worlds Fair grey/orange, and then MTA grey and blue......I don't think all the cars ever got repainted in the subsequent color scheme as photos show cars in the MTA colors (the latest colors they would have ran in in service) in a train with Worlds Fair colors and early grey/black mixed together.
Some also made it into yellow and blue work train colors with various windows (or all of them) plated over or painted over. The ones used as stationary storage cars, work shops or locker rooms got an overall yellow paint job.
The half paint scheme you ask........the two cars used as alcohol spray cars/scraper cars were painted MTA colors with yellow ends.
Time frame IN PASSENGER SERVICE would be the mid-late 50's to the mid 80's. The cars used in work train/wrecker crane service were shipped off the property in the mid 90's and presumably scrapped.....they were in horrific shape by that time. The alcohol spray cars lasted until the late 90's in alcohol service, and the ones used as stationary storage cars were one by one cut up for scrap during the late 90's/early 00's during the administrations efforts at that time to rid the RR of all old equipment on the property and "sterilize" it.
I think one or both of the cars used in Alcohol service went to one of the railroad museums on Long Island.
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Post by backshophoss on Feb 20, 2013 19:22:00 GMT -5
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Post by liengineerbob on Feb 20, 2013 19:55:20 GMT -5
There is NO WAY the Osgood Bradley "American Flyer" style cars were in service on the LIRR or any other road in 1925......they were not built by Pullman Standard until starting in 1937 for ANY railroad. The last ones were built for the New Haven in 1949.
I think you may be confusing different cars here.
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Post by backshophoss on Feb 20, 2013 23:36:20 GMT -5
Mr Lynch is still filling out the page on his site on car history,had in service date of 1925,
may have been built around 1910-1915,have the same look as cars used on the "Put"
in that time frame untill NYC reassigned/rebuilt for the Mercury service in 1935
those cars have a build date of1927(Put Division book,Gallo and Kramer,pg37)
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Post by liengineerbob on Feb 21, 2013 18:27:55 GMT -5
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Post by backshophoss on Feb 22, 2013 0:03:36 GMT -5
By the time I wandered on to Long Island,most of those cars were in the Corona "swamp"
The ex-erie/EL cars along with the "Pings" were on the Montauk trains,OB and Port jeff
branches and out to KO. M-1's ruled the roost so to speak back then.
The only A.F. cars I saw were on the Danbury thru trains to GCT.
The E+B Valley kits were based on those cars.
Believe all the "smooth" sided(ex-NH) cars stayed in Boston commuter service.
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Post by liengineerbob on Feb 22, 2013 18:24:35 GMT -5
Yes, the non-stainless steel New Haven cars did stay in Boston Commuter service for a while. Amtrak got most of the Stainless Steel versions from the New Haven. The LI never got any ex-New Haven cars, only a handful of BAR and B&M cars.
The E&B Valley kits were decent kits and still stand up well. Of course the new Rapido models put them to shame detail wise....but we are comparing 1970's molding technology to 2012 technology. The hardest part of the E&B kits, was getting the bodies put together and to line up properly. I still have a hoard of those E&B kits in my collection. They did offer them in both LIRR orange/grey and MTA grey/blue. The kits were ALWAYS warped. The lack of fine details never bothered me, those were easily added.
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Post by antoniofp45 on Mar 12, 2014 7:02:09 GMT -5
Yes, the non-stainless steel New Haven cars did stay in Boston Commuter service for a while. Amtrak got most of the Stainless Steel versions from the New Haven. The LI never got any ex-New Haven cars, only a handful of BAR and B&M cars. The E&B Valley kits were decent kits and still stand up well. Of course the new Rapido models put them to shame detail wise....but we are comparing 1970's molding technology to 2012 technology. The hardest part of the E&B kits, was getting the bodies put together and to line up properly. I still have a hoard of those E&B kits in my collection. They did offer them in both LIRR orange/grey and MTA grey/blue. The kits were ALWAYS warped. The lack of fine details never bothered me, those were easily added. ----------------------------------- I have 4 E&B Valley HO Pullman Standard car kits. I paint stripped the walls and also wet sanded the roofs to a smooth finish. I've been procrastinating for the longest in anticipation of RPS producing these cars but it looks like we will be waiting quite a while, so I'm going to get to work on these cars again. Plan is to finish them in the 1960s New Haven scheme with interiors included. I've never assembled an E&B kit before, so it should be "interesting" to say the least.   |
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Post by backshophoss on Mar 13, 2014 2:33:54 GMT -5
A good ACC glue will bond the sides/ends to the floor,avoid the truck kits that were part of E&B kits, better to source replacement trucks. Was lucky to get a couple of kits with flat floors. Take your time fitting it together. Will post some pics of a project I backburnered years ago when I moved west. This was with the E&B kits,buried somewhere!  |
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Post by antoniofp45 on Mar 19, 2014 21:10:28 GMT -5
Hi, Thanks for that tip on ACC glue. Is there a particular brand that you prefer? Also, do you use the liquid or gel version? I won't use the trucks from the kit. Recommendations I've seen are to use TSP trucks or Walthers but I'll cross that bridge when I get there. A good ACC glue will bond the sides/ends to the floor,avoid the truck kits that were part of E&B kits, better to source replacement trucks. Was lucky to get a couple of kits with flat floors. Take your time fitting it together. Will post some pics of a project I backburnered years ago when I moved west. This was with the E&B kits,buried somewhere! |
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Post by backshophoss on Mar 25, 2014 2:38:54 GMT -5
There's a brand of ACC thats sometimes passed as hobby shop "brand" ACC,
Made by Bob Smith Ind. Inc,,like to use the Gap Filling type,and their debonder as well
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Post by cab4 on Mar 25, 2014 23:21:33 GMT -5
I'm sure I'm just not paying attention properly, but would these look at home behind an FL9?
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Post by backshophoss on Mar 26, 2014 2:05:33 GMT -5
Yes they would,on the Danbury thru trains(to GCT),and the weekend Pittsfield trains.
Even on the shoreline runs to Boston.
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