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Post by Amtrak207 on Mar 14, 2017 23:41:16 GMT -5
WOW!!!
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Post by backshophoss on Mar 14, 2017 23:48:34 GMT -5
That's OK. Just trying to see what you did. Have you tested how the step will clear a platform?(or a platform mockup?)
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Post by slowfreight on Mar 15, 2017 12:23:18 GMT -5
That's OK. Just trying to see what you did. Have you tested how the step will clear a platform?(or a platform mockup?) No need. They fit in exactly the same opening as the factory steps. The harder part will be adjusting the frame for proper swivel and clearance on the trucks.
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Post by slowfreight on Mar 16, 2017 21:37:10 GMT -5
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Post by mttrains on Apr 28, 2017 14:01:40 GMT -5
Slowfreight, did you make any more progress on the comet II project? I would love to see some photos if you have any available. I am considering taking on the challenge myself.
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Post by slowfreight on Apr 29, 2017 8:23:59 GMT -5
It's been on the back burner for the last month or two while I work on the Jersey Builder. Next steps are to fabricate a pilot for the cab car and make any end detail changes that stand out in photos. But the underframes are almost ready for priming and painting.
Because I wanted a better finish on the shells, they'll get stripped and repainted with Alclad. I'll also blank one window that doesn't belong on the NJT shells, along with a myriad of grab irons and other bling. The cab car will get functional marker lights and head lights, probably powered off the track with a keep-alive system. One of the last things I'll need to do is design etchings for the windows on the cab car doors.
Still in the wings is my Comet I shell, which I haven't given up on, and the U34CH.
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Post by mttrains on Apr 29, 2017 15:29:56 GMT -5
I totally understand the back burner. My recent NJT ALP46 purchases have given me the desire to start modeling these in all detailing glory. That pilot on their equipment is critical as it must clear the third rail at NY Penn. Sounds like we are taking the same route with what we want to accomplish. You are way further along than me though. Looking forward to seeing how both projects turn out.
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Post by slowfreight on Sept 5, 2017 23:06:08 GMT -5
I'm spending some time this week working on the Comet I coach again, or at least planning. Since the IMW underframe is worthless, I wanted to replace it with a Comet underframe. I didn't want to waste a good Comet car for this, so I considered myself lucky when I found an undecorated Horizon coach on the clearance pile at a hobby shop. My current thinking is to use the entire underframe minus step wells, and modify the suspension detail slightly to more closely represent the Comet I suspension. I think it's going to be a bit of a stretch, but compared to the IMW non-detail it will look pretty OK. This means the car will probably end up a 75% model instead of the 95% models I'll get out of the Comet II cars. If we revisit this photo you can see where I need to add height to the car. In measuring the Walthers underframe, I can trim it down to where mounting it to the bottom of the IMW shell will get me the extra 6" I need to add. I will have to remake the lower-side fillet and then I can then rebuild the step wells and doors. I'm considering making the fillet using body putty and a template to form it. Since the Walthers frame is a bit narrower than the cast body, I think I could even taper the lower sides inward like they're supposed to be. I had originally thought about designing some upgrade parts for this kit on Shapeways, but now it looks like I can dodge that bullet.
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Post by backshophoss on Sept 6, 2017 22:16:24 GMT -5
Believe the sliding stairwell covers were only on the PS built Comet I's,the Mainline/Bergen County line were low platforms back then as was Hoboken,all the way to Port Jervis NY. The Comet II's/Shoreliner I's,the stepwells are open to the weather! Did you have to primer paint the 3D parts?
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Post by slowfreight on Sept 6, 2017 22:35:27 GMT -5
I believe you're right...Comet I's were ordered for EL service. Guess this means I'm building a Port Jervis train. IIRC, the U34CHs also stayed largely on the Port Jervis run. I got to ride it earlier this year starting from Port Jervis. It's long, but a nice ride.
I prime everything before painting. Typically I use grey primer, but certain colors benefit from using white or silver primer. For these, I'll probably airbrush Floquil grey primer if the bottles are still good.
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Post by backshophoss on Sept 6, 2017 23:02:10 GMT -5
When first delivered to NJDOT/EL,the Comet I's and the U34CH's were setup as 3 phase 575 VAC HEP,later on they were reset to work with what became the Amtrak Standard 3 phase,480 VAC HEP. GE created 1 more U34CH,For NY's MTA,that was a recycled U36C(believe a wreck rebuild).
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Post by slowfreight on Sept 7, 2017 12:23:35 GMT -5
It was built from a C&NW U33C, who very quickly decided it didn't like few it bought.
Not sure why 575 VAC was considered over 480, so I did a little digging. I found this explanation on practicalmachinist.com's forum:
"575 vs 600V is just semantics. 575V is the "Utilization voltage" for motors, while 600V is in reference to the "Distribution voltage" supplied by the utility, and is the "standard" in most of Canada. In the US we have 480V as the Distibution voltage and 460V as the utilization voltage, 240V distibution vs 230V utilization etc. etc. This is because the motor mfgrs use a lower rating in order to compensate for some expected voltage drop without sacrificing performance and to provide a compromize for older systems still in use that were 550V or 440V. All new motors are 230/460V or 575V now.
As mentioned by others there are pockets of 600V distibution throughout the US such as many Southeast textile milss, but for the most part it is rare here."
So it kind of makes sense that GO Transit standardized on 575 VAC HEP, as the 600V equipment is probably easy to find in Canada. Since locomotives are 600VDC machines, using 600V equipment makes some sense. But HEP was no longer new and novel by the 70s and had standardized on CNW/Pullman's original 480VAC system, so why E-L would have messed around with it in the beginning is a little beyond me. And I would expect Pullman suggested it because it's easy to get off-the-shelf a/c systems and readily-maintained Cummins generators.
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Post by slowfreight on Sept 16, 2017 8:28:45 GMT -5
Grrr. This car is a real challenge. I can't just glue the shell to the underframe because then I won't be able to paint it and add window glazing. But I want to use spot putty to make the curve at the bottom of the car side.
I'm starting to see a path forward to make a runnable car, but must think carefully before cutting and gluing much more.
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Post by mttrains on Sept 16, 2017 11:23:48 GMT -5
Grrr. This car is a real challenge. I can't just glue the shell to the underframe because then I won't be able to paint it and add window glazing. But I want to use spot putty to make the curve at the bottom of the car side. I'm starting to see a path forward to make a runnable car, but must think carefully before cutting and gluing much more. Which car are you referring to and what are you trying to create?
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Post by slowfreight on Sept 16, 2017 22:20:07 GMT -5
Grrr. This car is a real challenge. I can't just glue the shell to the underframe because then I won't be able to paint it and add window glazing. But I want to use spot putty to make the curve at the bottom of the car side. I'm starting to see a path forward to make a runnable car, but must think carefully before cutting and gluing much more. Which car are you referring to and what are you trying to create? A runnable Comet I that's tall enough to couple next to a Walthers Comet II and not look retarded, but starting with the Island Model Works resin kit. If I were any good with CAD it would have been faster to draw a new shell from scratch and print it.
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