timberley
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Primary Railroads: VIA Rail Canada, AMT (Montreal)
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Post by timberley on Mar 22, 2013 21:15:25 GMT -5
Hi all, I see this Canadian section hasn't really started up yet, so I thought I'd give it a kick. Any other Canadian passenger modellers on here yet? Let's see what you have to show off! I'll give it a bit of a start. I'm modelling modern day VIA Rail in HO. No layout yet, but that gives me more time to work on the equipment. First up, here's a typical short Corridor train posed on top of the couch  The locomotive is an Athearn BB P42 I painted and decalled, and the coaches are the early Rapido resin kits which I built and painted. These have more recently been replaced by the new Rapido RTR LRCs, and the kits have been fodder for modifications and "in the background" service.  Next up is another Athearn P42, this time from a custom run of RTR units, leading the newer Rapido RTR LRCs on my friend's layout. The Club car is from the first run of Rapido cars, and I have added the new VIA 1 logo and Wi-Fi dome.  So what have you got? VIA, CN, CP? GO, AMT, WCE? Even Algoma Central or ONR? Let's see it! |
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Post by acelaphillies on Mar 25, 2013 14:52:05 GMT -5
I don't have any Canadian models, but I just wanted to say that your stuff looks great! I always enjoy pictures  . If you are part of any Canadian modeling groups, it would be great if you could tell them about this forum. We are definitely in need of more members! |
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Post by backshophoss on Mar 25, 2013 19:06:27 GMT -5
In the Amtrak era,there was a train that ran Chicago-Port Huron(Sarnia On)-Toronto ON
as a joint Amtrak/VIA train,#'s 364/365 mon-sat,#'s 366/367sun under the name
"International",this was the 1st "home" of the Horizon Fleet and shared F-40's.
Did any of LRC Coaches/Food service cars ran on this train?
Or did some of VIA's "heritage" cars take a turn on this train?
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timberley
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Primary Railroads: VIA Rail Canada, AMT (Montreal)
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Post by timberley on Mar 25, 2013 21:16:54 GMT -5
Thanks! I am part of a few other Canadian-centered groups, so I'll make the suggestion to see if anyone might decide to contribute over here too. I'm always happy to have more places focused on modelling Canadian stuff, and a passenger-centric version is something I really hope can grow!
That's actually a really interesting case, because while there were LRC cars that ran on the International, they were a very unique part of the VIA fleet. Amtrak initially leased two sets of LRC equipment from Bombardier back when they were being produced for VIA. Although these were similar to the VIA versions (they were the LRC-1 model, while those delivered to VIA were LRC-2 and LRC-3), they had a number of notable differences (such as different marker lights, windows with a centre post, etc), ran on Amtrak's HEP system (different from VIA's), and included two cafe cars. These were the only two LRC cafe cars ever built, as VIA had only coaches and first class Club cars (with larger galley).
After being returned to Bombardier, the Amtrak cars then ended up going to VIA. They were painted in VIA colours, but were not intermixed with the rest of the fleet due to their incompatibilities. As a result, these cars spent quite a bit of time routinely assigned to service on the International when VIA was providing rolling stock (with either Amtrak or VIA power).
I have seen a few photos of the cars in this service, but I can't pull up any at the moment.
As far as I know, these were the only VIA cars that were actually used on the International, and even then they were originally Amtrak cars.
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Post by backshophoss on Mar 25, 2013 22:51:10 GMT -5
I remember the 2 LRC sets that ran on the NEC between Boston S.Station and NY Penn
with a power swap at New Haven(This was about the time the NEC was to turned over
to Amtrak.
Did these cars go thru the "reman" process thats now in trouble??
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timberley
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Primary Railroads: VIA Rail Canada, AMT (Montreal)
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Post by timberley on Mar 26, 2013 20:18:16 GMT -5
Nope. Some spent a while in VIA paint on the International, while others languished in Montreal (a couple of them got painted in experimental schemes). Once removed from International service, the cars never operated with VIA elsewhere, and remained in storage in Montreal for quite a few years. As far as I know, they were scrapped some time ago.
Although similar, there were many differences from the VIA cars that made them fundamentally incompatible, and it would have required a good bit of work to get them into shape.
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Post by pilpro on Mar 26, 2013 23:03:14 GMT -5
Nice nice looking VIA consist!
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Post by antoniofp45 on Apr 9, 2013 4:44:29 GMT -5
That is a beautiful looking train! When it comes to modern eye-catching paint schemes, imho, VIA surpasses Amtrak, hands down.
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timberley
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Post by timberley on Apr 19, 2013 23:07:06 GMT -5
Thanks guys!
I have to agree that I think VIA's current paint schemes are, on the whole, the best looking of the modern passenger carriers I've seen. I could be a tad biased having grown up around the stuff, but I do really think it just looks sleek, bright, and eye-catching!
I am really not fond of Amtrak's paint schemes (although I do LOVE the Phase III heritage scheme). I used to think that the P42 was a hideous locomotive when Amtrak had it, then VIA bought them and slapped the Renaissance paint on, and I fell in love with them. Just a much more fitting scheme for the locomotive, and flows great with the LRC and Renaissance cars.
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timberley
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Primary Railroads: VIA Rail Canada, AMT (Montreal)
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Post by timberley on Apr 19, 2013 23:15:06 GMT -5
Ah heck, since I'm talking about P42s I may as well show off a couple more models. Here's an N scale Kato P42 I photographed "at night" (it's amazing how dark you can make a sunlit room even in the middle of the afternoon, with the right lighting and light-blocks) on my little N scale layout.  And just as more of a demonstration that the Renaissance scheme can look good on more than just P42s, here's an HO model of the short-lived F40 rebuild prototype #6400 (it was wrecked in 2010) that I kitbashed and painted. The 6400 was a little easier to do than the later rebuilds, as I didn't have to worry about extra headlights and the huge rear-end HEP extension. Still not nearly 100% correct for a VIA F40PH-2d, but I'll call it close enough for the look.  |
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Post by acelaphillies on Apr 20, 2013 7:21:15 GMT -5
Ah heck, since I'm talking about P42s I may as well show off a couple more models. Here's an N scale Kato P42 I photographed "at night" (it's amazing how dark you can make a sunlit room even in the middle of the afternoon, with the right lighting and light-blocks) on my little N scale layout. P And just as more of a demonstration that the Renaissance scheme can look good on more than just P42s, here's an HO model of the short-lived F40 rebuild prototype #6400 (it was wrecked in 2010) that I kitbashed and painted. The 6400 was a little easier to do than the later rebuilds, as I didn't have to worry about extra headlights and the huge rear-end HEP extension. Still not nearly 100% correct for a VIA F40PH-2d, but I'll call it close enough for the look. WOW!!! Great pictures!!! When I saw that top pic I alcually thought it was real until I read your description. We are looking for pictures for the website header, would yoj agree to submit these? |
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timberley
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Primary Railroads: VIA Rail Canada, AMT (Montreal)
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Post by timberley on Apr 20, 2013 12:12:04 GMT -5
WOW!!! Great pictures!!! When I saw that top pic I alcually thought it was real until I read your description. We are looking for pictures for the website header, would yoj agree to submit these? Thanks! Would be quite happy to. I'll post that "night" shot again over in the appropriate thread. As for this thread, I'm still hoping to see some more contributions! I know you other Canadian passenger-modelling guys are out there, so let's see what you've got! |
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timberley
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Post by timberley on Jun 20, 2013 19:47:51 GMT -5
Well hopefully we'll see some other contributions on here soon besides mine (come on guys! I know you're out there  ), but for now, here are a few new ones from me. First off, here's a more updated version of the model of VIA 6400 that I posted above. Since that photo, I have added MU hoses, ditch lights, bug deflectors, fuel tank steps, A/C unit, and MV lenses in the marker lights. I also added additional grabs under the numberboards, but I took this photo before I added those.  The big project I've been working on for a while now is an HO scale model of VIA Panorama car #1720. This car was built by Colorado Railcar, originally for the Florida Fun Train (which never happened). It then went to BC Rail (used on the Whistler Northwind), and then to VIA along with siblings 1721 and 1722, and Glenfraser lounge car 1750. The model was kitbashed from a Rapido Trains CC&F lightweight coach and a Bachmann Ultradome. I used the frame, ends, trucks, and some other miscellaneous bits (grabs, end gates, etc) from the coach - I also used parts of the roof (the curved sides, heavily sanded, anyway). I used the dome section from the Ultradome, as well as the underbody covers and the marker lights. I built new sides, vestibule windows, underbody, end bracing, MU and brake detail, and roof parts from styrene. The interior was built from the CC&F coach interior and styrene. I also added Rapido Trains LRC diaphragms. There was a LOT of filling with putty and sanding, and then I painted the car with a 50/50 mix of Tamiya gloss white and chrome. After the base coat, I masked the "splash" patterns (what a job! That pattern was not easy to do...) and then sprayed with Testors Chezoom Teal (which looks a little greener in person than in the photos). Finally, the decals are all Rapido Trains decals (Canada logo from the LRC decal set, and flag and VIA logo from their HEP decals). So having said all that, here are the photos:     If anyone wants to know more about the build, feel free to ask! Now I think I've shared plenty, let's see some others' work! |
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Post by acelaphillies on Jun 22, 2013 10:20:31 GMT -5
Timberly,
Outstanding work!
Do you have any pictures of the builds in progress? I always enjoy the before and after shots.
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timberley
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Primary Railroads: VIA Rail Canada, AMT (Montreal)
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Post by timberley on Jul 22, 2013 11:52:32 GMT -5
Timberly, Outstanding work! Do you have any pictures of the builds in progress? I always enjoy the before and after shots. Sorry for the delayed response! Yes, I did actually take lots of in progress photos of every step along the build, showing all the parts and each step coming together. Hopefully I'll have time to post some of those photos soon. I've been busy with work lately (both other model railroad and "real" work ), but should have a chance before too long. I'm also working on writing up a step-by-step build description, so all that will get posted too. |
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The locomotive is an Athearn BB P42 I painted and decalled, and the coaches are the early Rapido resin kits which I built and painted. These have more recently been replaced by the new Rapido RTR LRCs, and the kits have been fodder for modifications and "in the background" service.
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), but for now, here are a few new ones from me.