aem7
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Posts: 32
Primary Railroads: Amtrak, B&O, Chessie
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Post by aem7 on Aug 25, 2014 19:58:30 GMT -5
Thanks for fixing the post. I thought they would help with others that may be considering to add this detail.
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Post by acelaphillies on Aug 26, 2014 21:12:57 GMT -5
Thanks for fixing the post. I thought they would help with others that may be considering to add this detail. No problem. When posting from Flickr you can directly copy this link (click on the picture to see it larger): If you copy from the address bar it will not work, which is what I think you did. Btw, I don't think I got the chance to say, "welcome to the forum!" We are happy to have you here!
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Post by Amtrak207 on Aug 27, 2014 2:10:23 GMT -5
Ah that's exactly what I am adding to the car ends. Luckily at work we have a .PDF of the emergency exit signs (work for a police department, so we have their evacuation book in case we ever have to help out.) So yes...if you want to add these, get WHITE background decal paper, not clear ha ha ha.
I will be aggressively moving forward with my Amfleet project in 2-3 weeks, stay tuned for pictures and updates!
Tom
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Post by Amtrak207 on Oct 12, 2014 21:32:36 GMT -5
not much progress, but it's coming along. Sheen has been toned down
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Post by acelaphillies on Oct 13, 2014 9:35:05 GMT -5
Wow, that looks little the real thing! It' amazing what such subtle details can do for the overall appearance.
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Post by Amtrak207 on Oct 16, 2014 18:34:54 GMT -5
Just a little preview of progress. :-) The "AMF" on the air conditioning unit was NOT easy. Besides using an extremely sharp knife to cut the custom decal out (once I had it properly resized through trial and error), there was also a learning curve.... A decal THIS small as well as printed on a black background, once you have it set, do NOT use Microsoft Micro-Sol or Walthers Solvaset (as you sometimes would on commercial decals)to soften and slightly bond it to the model. The decal is so small, and the black background WILL run with the usual products (learned that the hard way.) Best way to do these tiny custom decals is to trim as CLOSE to the lettering as possible, apply it, BE CAREFUL NOT TO TOUCH IT, then seal it with an appropriate sealant (Dull Cote) in this case for the underbody. Tom
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Post by backshophoss on Oct 21, 2014 1:10:06 GMT -5
Seems you got lucky,the car in the prototype pic was fresh out of the shop,most of that lettering would be covered with road grime,brake dust,etc... A/C compressors tend to use bushings to seal the shaft thru the case wall,the bushing wears out the freon leaks out,A/C compressor fails!(Hot car interior! )
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Post by Amtrak207 on Oct 21, 2014 23:45:28 GMT -5
Ha ha yea most of the prototype ones I've seen, you can barely make it out.
More are coming. Stay tuned for a complete rip-out of the coach seats in the food service cars.
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Post by Amtrak207 on Oct 26, 2014 15:27:34 GMT -5
Okay boys, did a little more detailing. Here is the current status of Amfleet I café # 43358 (full Dinette version) planning some interior work viola! The new seating was provided by Palace Car Company, product # 5005 (HO Scale cafe booths), they have SUPERIOR products as Kyle can attest and I highly recommend them.
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Post by backshophoss on Oct 26, 2014 19:24:56 GMT -5
How hard was it to remove the coach seats? Nice touch with the "stainless steel" paint in the "Kitchen" area.
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Post by Amtrak207 on Oct 26, 2014 20:30:41 GMT -5
Thank you. I am still tinkering with interior details (like the A/C taking up a whole table for himself...ha ha ha.)
Hoss the seats were a PAIN to remove. A Dremel took greatly simplified it, but then sanding it down WITHOUT breaking or snapping the interior was the hardest point. A sharp X-acto helped as well.
Tom
(More to follow, such as some other interior details and weathering the underbody plus the WiFi on the roof.)
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Post by mttrains on Oct 26, 2014 20:36:20 GMT -5
Really great work!!! You aren't playing around... You are giving me ideas.
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Post by Amtrak207 on Oct 26, 2014 20:57:10 GMT -5
Thanks! I can't wait to see Timberley's work on his cafe car. I plan to do my other cafe car with the half table / half business class (with the brown/dark red leather seating.)
I want to recover from this project for a little bit, but I must say, the hard work removing the seats was well worth it in the end!
Tom
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Post by backshophoss on Oct 26, 2014 22:24:06 GMT -5
Might be easier to cut+splice in a piece of of sheetstock,at or close to the interior floor thickness, are the coach seats molded into the floor? Or just glued in well?
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Post by Amtrak207 on Oct 28, 2014 14:30:00 GMT -5
I wish the coach seats were glued in, but rather they're molded. As long as you go carefully, you will not have a problem with a Dremel. Just be careful and go slow. It is time consuming but it could easily be an evening (or two) project. The results were WELL worth it. The cafe booths were provided by Palace Car Company. www.palacecarco.com/proddetail.php?prod=5005They have quality products and would not hesitate to order from them again. I'm going go try to get better lighting, and show how with a little weathering (and I do mean little), followed by a semi-gloss sealant, the sheen is toned down to a VERY realistic finish now. Amtrak keeps these cars pretty clean, so just some light black chalk on the roofs at the car ends, brushed lightly inwards toward the center of the car (to simulate soot and exhaust from being behind a locomotive) is really all that is needed followed by some light dust on the bottom of the carbody and slightly more around the doors and simulated drop steps. You can go a little harder on the drop steps because they are banged around quite frequently. The underbody is slightly weathered to bring out all that tasty Amfleet piping and decals as well as to simulate the great road grime if picks up, then Dull Coated. Advice: just when you think the car needs another "dusting" or one more semigloss coat... STOP. That is usually when it gets overdone. Trust me. Tom
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